About the Site

The site was started as a way to share information, photos, maps, and other ephemera regarding the Susquehanna & New York Railroad. The author has assembled a small trove of S&NY material, and intends to scan and share this information as time permits.

25 Thoughts on “About the Site

  1. I was doing some research on the Elmira Branch and stumbled on a reference to an article on the S & NY by Clarence Weaver. It was in the Jan 1943 Trains magazine: 11 pages – 13 photographs including two of Bergan tower looking south. It’s a must have addition to your bibliography.

    • exnavydoc@hotmail.com on June 29, 2013 at 12:24 said:

      Thanks, Mike! I had forgotten about that one. I know I have a copy of that issue in my “drawer o’stuff” somewhere. I’ll add it to the bibliography as soon as I can dig it out.

  2. Steve on July 4, 2013 at 16:38 said:

    Interesting site. My grandfather worked for the S&NY from about 1913-1940 when he started work for the LVRR, where he worked until he retired around 1955. He was in Masten, Towanda, Laquin and Ellenton that I know of, probably most of the others too at one time or another as a telegraher, dispatcher etc.

  3. Charles Marvin on July 6, 2013 at 05:11 said:

    Hello, I enjoy your site. I have many documents concerning the S&NY if you are interested. Example: I went to the National Archives some years ago and had copied much/most of the 1917 Valuation information, including track plans. And other stuff … if interested let me know and I’d be willing to send you copies to put into your documents area. Charlie

    • Hello: This is a great site with tons of information. Mr. Marvin I am very interested in purchasing copies of the Valuation maps for this Ralston area. Here is a copy and paste from an email that I most recently sent to the National Archives. Please let me know your thoughts: Good Morning Sir:

      In accordance to your detailed email provided to me in May 2014 I will attempt to provide you with the necessary information for your staff to determine if any valuation maps exist for the following railroads that you may provide us with citations for ordering copies. Thank you very much for detailing the instructions with explanations and your continued guidance.

      The best that we can tell is that there are remnants of two railroad grades that appear to run nearly parallel in a generally north and south direction. We are interested in knowing if Valuations maps exist for both grades but we are primarily interested in the upper grade which we believe is the Susquehanna and New York Railroad Company. The following are several geodetic coordinates that we obtained from Google Earth on-line mapping:

      North east 41d29’52.56”,-76d57’12.56”
      Marsh hill bend 41d28’42.39”,-76d58’07.98”
      Masten loop 41d30’49.46”,-76d47’54.30”

      The lower grade that runs nearly parallel and about 100 feet or so away from the S&NY RR we believe is the now or former Penn Central Railroad. These two railroads, as far as our area of interest is concerned runs from about the Villages of Ralston, through Marsh Hill to beyond Masten, all which are located in McIntyre Township, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania.

      We do not know the time period of ownership for the now or former Susquehanna and New York Railroad Company or the now or former Penn Central Railroad.

      Please let me know if citations exist that we may contact a registered searcher from the internet link provided to us that shows the list of researchers available to us. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you in advance for your help.

      Any help that you can give will be appreciated.

      Thank you, Mike

  4. Dwight Varnes on July 26, 2013 at 22:18 said:

    Nice web site; I hope you keep adding to it. My folks used to have a place outside of Shunk and we spent many weekends driving and riding motorcycle around the area when I was a kid. We stumbled upon the Masten Loop bridge abutments and I’ve been fascinated by the S&NY ever since. You’ve got some photos not in “the book’ which were a delight to see. I also found the high bridge abutments many years ago and I think that combination bridge probably goes there. We took a metal detector to Laquin and found several spike and some other junk but nothing worth saving. I haven’t been to the area in probably 20 years but have wanted to explore it again. Thank you for sharing, and nice modeling…looking forward to continued progress (I’m a sometimes modeler myself).

  5. Cindy B on September 16, 2013 at 20:30 said:

    Looking for any information, pics or maps of the Wheelerville area

  6. June McNett on October 22, 2013 at 19:48 said:

    My family lived in Ralston, Pa. We grew up walking on the old S&NY RR bed. A few years ago my sister & I decided to walk from Ralston to Marsh Hill & up to Towanda on the old RR bed. So far we have made it to Laquin. Spent a lot of time in Masten looking for old foundations, loving every minute of it. If anyone would ever like to join us, you are welcome.

    • Brenda Rezvan on October 24, 2015 at 21:37 said:

      June,

      Did you finish the hike to Towanda yet? Are you connected to the McNett family from Grover/Canton area?

      B

  7. Looks like you have a good start on what should be a great railroad. I’m curious if you have a track plan. I’m familiar with the S&NY through the PA lumber series of books. Actually, I was part of the Eastern Loggers and some of our models were inspired by Laquin.
    http://sn2modeler.com/category/eastern-loggers/

    • exnavydoc@hotmail.com on February 5, 2014 at 15:53 said:

      David,
      The only track plan I had was a preliminary one done in 3rdPlanit to set out the major turnback curves. I need to add a real track plan to the list of things to add to the site.

  8. Guy W. Fluck on February 10, 2014 at 22:47 said:

    Hello, great site, if you are interested I have copies of a handful of ORER’s of S&NY equipment, 1940, 1926, 1917, 1912, 1909, 1907, 1905 & 1903.

    v/r

    Guy W. Fluck

    • exnavydoc@hotmail.com on February 12, 2014 at 00:00 said:

      Mr. Fluck,
      I would indeed be interested in copies of the ORER’s. I have copies of a couple of years, but not to the extent you have.

      Thanks,

      Mike H.

  9. Charles Marvin on June 10, 2014 at 10:51 said:

    For Michael F. Brinkash …

    The National Archives are available to all, just register as a researcher, go through the process and you’ll find that they have a large flat folder with the valuation maps and (located elsewhere) the textual information. Years ago, I had them copy most of the maps for me and I copied the text information. I don’t have a way to copy the maps in total, but I did create PDFs of the material with individual scans of portions … just need to print out and assemble. I’ll gladly make the material available to you … just e-mail me at carmarv @ att . net (no spaces). Sincerely yours, Charlie Marvin

  10. Norm Hoover on January 12, 2015 at 15:15 said:

    What a great and informative site.
    When my ex-wife ( the former Nancy Gochnauer) and I were first married, we lived for several years in the house that stands on the corner of route 154 and the S&NY grade at Wheelerville. We would ride our bikes down the grade to Laquin where someone would pick us up and bring us back to Wheelerville by way of Sunfish Pond. In the winter the grade was a major roadway for our snowmobiles.
    I believe that the high bridge that you mentioned and the curve bridge are the same. If I remember correctly, the bridge in question, crossed both the Pleasant Stream and the Pleasant Stream Road right on the apex of the curve. There is a cabin built on the right of way now.
    In studying the pictures of Ellenton, I think that #’s 16-17- and 18 are views from the hill behind what would be Ellenton store. The railroad in the foreground would be the CP logging Co. The Ellenton church is in plain view in one of them and would not be seen from any other angle. Also my ex- brother in laws barn is viewed differently from the view in pictures 7 and 14.
    I’m not trying to be picky, just trying to help.
    Keep up the good work.
    Norm

    • exnavydoc@hotmail.com on January 12, 2015 at 21:45 said:

      Norm,
      Thanks for the comments. Any information that can help orient some of these old photos is appreciated.

  11. My great grandfather was a engineer for the S&N.Y.Railroad. His name was Eli Chilson. I didn’t even know there was a site of this. I am very pleased and excited to be able to look at past history of my family. I have a lot of articles like his rule book and also a book of just S&N.Y. Railroad and family history. My Aunt and I still enjoy looking at train pictures and photos of my great grandfather. He passed away when I was 3 years old so I can’t remember much memory of him but I wrote to the Bradford historical society yrs ago and got a lot of information about him. If anyone who would like to chat or wants to share photos let me know! I will be letting my Aunt know soon of this site. She’ll be as excited as I am!

  12. John Updegraff on May 19, 2015 at 12:38 said:

    Grew up in Marsh Hill all my child hood. used to travel the old rail road bed of the S&NY. I new a lot of the workers on that road, like Harris, Moyer, Kilmer’s, and many others that I met in life travels. And my great aunt was the school teacher in Masten and her brothers and father worked there along with her uncle Ben Little and cousins.. My grand dad would ride the train and the engineers would drop along the tracks so they could fish or hunt and pick them back up on their way back through. Still today there is a fire place still standing at the Masten area. I took my wife back through Rock Run up over the Yellow Dog into Ellington and then showed her the Masten site and walked in the creek there, She could not get over how clear and cold the water was. I could look just south from my yard and see the old coal tipple remains, and down were the 2 rail roads came together, just yards before that was a bridge that crossed the Pleasant Stream Creek. The memories that Rail Road made and should of never been abandoned. All’s that is left is photographs and memories along with the imprint were it ounce was.

    • Brenda Rezvan on October 24, 2015 at 21:41 said:

      John,

      What was the aunt’s name who was the Masten schoolteacher? Do you have a time frame? Any other families from the area that you remember?

      Thanks.
      B

  13. bruce amendolaro on November 16, 2015 at 12:04 said:

    Have come across a couple early 1900’s photos of Susquehanna & New York logging trains, a collapsed bridge with logging train on it, and logging camps [Watts and Hosbands]. Can’t find much info on the train wreck or the camps.

  14. bruce amendolaro on November 16, 2015 at 12:09 said:

    Have recently found a few large cabinet photos of SUSQ. & NY RR LOGGING TRAINS & LOGGING CAMPS. Looking for some info on a train wreck on a collapsed bridge and two of the camps..thanks

  15. I very much appreciate your efforts to preserve and share this piece of railroad history.
    Thank you.

  16. Very nicely done site, love the modeling! I’m modeling the former LV in Conrail days and have looked everywhere for a picture of Wyalusing Planing Co., so I’m tossing that out there in the off chance that you or someone who reads this might have something, thanks very much. (mikerosehobbies@gmail.com)

    • exnavydoc@hotmail.com on February 26, 2017 at 21:08 said:

      Mike,
      I don’t have a photo, but there are people from the area who visit the site and maybe you can get help there. There is also a Bradford County historical group on Facebook; Bradford County Rear View Mirror. Might be worthwhile posting there if you haven’t already.
      Good Luck,
      Mike H.
      P.S. Love the podcast, keep up the good work!

  17. Chris Chamberlain on March 25, 2017 at 19:09 said:

    I’ve subscribed to the “Talky Tuesday” and “Wordless Wednesday” for several years now. I really enjoy your site and the fantastic collection of material. I grew up in Towanda along the Conrail tracks, and have always been fascinated with the railroad history of the area. I’ve read the Kaseman book so many times I think I have it memorized, so it’s nice to get some “fresh” material every now and then! Please keep up the great work! Chris C.

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